And enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat methuselah. Why did god take enoch and elijah to heaven without them. So, what does the bible really say happened to these two men. The two witnesses are enoch and elijah christian forums. Are the two witnesses in revelation enoch and elijah. Advocates of the enoch and elijah view presume that enoch and elijah must be brought back to earth so that. This view also resonates with the belief elijah would return before the messiah.
To argue that moses and elijah must be the witnesses because of the miracles mentioned, then, is weak. So if the witnesses are literal people like moses and elijah. The coming of enoch and elijah in revelations sacred. Here is a different point of view, written by dean smith.
Why were enoch and elijah taken to heaven without dying. It is said that both were taken to heaven, and that they remain there even at present, living in the very presence of god himself. What are the different views on who the two witnesses described in. Who are the two witnesses in the book of revelation. Various jewish and christian legends, some of them quite ancient, have been handed down in support of these traditions. One of the more curious questions about the endtimes revolves around the continue reading. What is the sevenheaded beast of the sea in revelation. Scripture does not identify the two witnesses by name, and no wellknown person is associated with their coming. In this show i cover from many texts who the two witnesses of revelation 11 are as well as how the timeline for the end of days unfolds in scenario. Can the two witnesses in revelation 11 be symbolized by. Some believe enoch and elijah are the two witnesses described in revelation 11.
Thomas aquinas believed that the two prophets of revelation will be enoch and elijah, and that those two are in paradise awaiting the day. Enoch and elijah, and their apparent disappearance, mystifies many readers of gods word. Early christian writers such as tertullian, irenaeus, and hippolytus of rome, have concluded that the two witnesses would be enoch and elijah. And i will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1260 days, clothed in sackcloth. The two witnesses revelation lamb and lion ministries. Some view them as a return of moses and elijah, while others see them as the church or martyrs of the church, or even a return of peter and paul or enoch. The two witnesses of revelation alamongordo prophecies 2020. Back to the subject of enoch and elijah, they are in heaven in the spirit right now. Do these scriptures prove that the three were in heaven the throne of god before jesus was sent to earth in the flesh. In genesis 5 enoch walked with god and was no more and in 2 kings 2 elijah is taken to heaven in a fiery chariot in 2 kings 2. These two witnesses are eventually killed revelation 11. Enoch and elijah the two witnesses sermon by william r. Another problem is that revelation 11 says fire comes from the mouths of the two witnesses to devour their enemies.
I know some people think that the two witnesses are elijah and moses because that is who jesus was talking to during the transfiguration. Enoch and elijah, as far as we know, are the only two individuals whom god has taken directly to heaven without experiencing death genesis 5. The story of enoch occurs in the first few chapters of genesis. We know that it is moses and elijah because verse three plainly tells us who they are.
Enoch the preflood prophet and end time witness posted on march 29, 2017 by don koenig april 1, 2017 some of the contents in the book of enoch 1 enoch requires that either the person giving the message was a prophet, or that much of the book of enoch. Some say moses and elijah and some preterists state that these two witnesses represent all the prophets and john the baptist e. Do you think that the two witnesses spoken of in the book. Honest hearted people will be cut to the heart with guilt when they hear. According to my research on your question, there is little consensus as to the identity of these individuals. In the book of revelation, the two witnesses are two of gods prophets who are seen in a vision. Enoch, the 7 th generation from adam was born in 3338 bc.
But they were talking about the upcoming crucifixion, not the. In keeping the sayings of god, enoch kept the sayings of jesus too. In verse 2 he is told to omit the outer court, which is given to gentiles, who trample the holy city for 42 months. The futurist would say they are either enoch and elijah, elijah and moses, elijah and john the beloved, joshua and zerubbabel, two unidentified believers or a larger witnessing body of believers. As you may already know, i suspect that the two witnesses of revelation are probably elijah and moses, and some evidence suggests they could arrive at this coming passover in april 2016. In 2 kings 2 we find elijah and enoch walking together and talking. The two witnesses i believe is two men who represent the jewish and the gentile church these are the two lamp stand and the two olive trees, who were the sack cloth of serious ill health and pain and discomfort but they bear witness to god. And enoch will be in the first resurrection because he met the conditions.
I am enquiring into the identity of the two witnesses spoken of in revelations. Leviathans skin will be used for sukkah and her flesh served at the marriage supper of the lamb. The animal apocalypse implies enoch would return, although this is far from clear in 1 enoch 90. He was 365 years old when god raptured him into heaven.
This proves beyond doubt that the witnesses cannot be either moses, enoch or elijah, because they are now immortal and cannot be killed. The two witnesses are personified in revelation 11 as two prophets because they will work through gods prophets during the great tribulation. Enoch is described as a man who walked with god for 300 years genesis 5. Some have said that the two witnesses will be moses and elijah because the miracles in revelation 11, look like the miracles that were wrought by moses back in egypt. All personalities are the same see more about antichrist mahdi in revelation chapter scroll down to antichrist below the chapter on that page. The bible says that elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven 2 kings 2.
The two witnesses of revelations last days prophecy. Today, so that people dont miss what they have said, matthew has republished their interviews in this small book. Leviathan will kill the two witnesses of enoch and elijah at the conclusion of their 42month testimony in jerusalem, then yahoah will slay her with his sword. According to revelation chapter 11, their works will be like moses and elijah achievement works while they were on earth. The holy spirit will empower each of the 144,000 to present gods law to the world and the results will be spectacular. Many claim that neither enoch nor elijah ever died, and that they remain alive today. Several bible scholars believe that the two witnesses mentioned in the book of revelation are moses and elijah. Jesus said that this prophecy was at least partially fulfilled in the coming of john the baptist. Will elijah and enoch return during the great tribulation. Who are the two witnesses of revelation chapter 11. Diadems of the decade treasures of tradition scott. To put the final nail in the coffin in this alleged contradiction, let us consider this last point. The disciples of the apostles say that they enoch and elijah whose living bodies were taken up from the earth, have been placed in an earthly paradise, where they will remain until the end of the world.
Many christians believe that neither enoch or elijah died and that both are now in heaven. A second view holds that these two witnesses will be enoch and elijah. This verse is clear, no one, but christ has ascended into heaven. The tradition that two prophets, usually enoch and elijah, would. Enoch and elijah are seen as possibilities for the two witnesses because of the unique circumstances surrounding their exit from the world. The fact that neither enoch or elijah have experienced death seems to qualify them to experience death and resurrection, as the two witnesses experience revelation 11. There are three primary viewpoints on the identity of the two witnesses in revelation 11. What you have readthat the two witnesses represent elijah and enoch seems to be the commonly held opinion of many church fathers.
Thus enoch and elijah have been waiting in heaven in their natural bodies. All of them identified the two witnesses in their writings as enoch and elijah. Elijah was perhaps the most powerful of gods prophets in the old testament. I so far have read that they are elijah and either moses or enoch.
The story of elijah going up by a whirlwind is legendary. However, the church fathers identified them as henoch and elias or enoch and elijah augustine. On the whereabouts of enoch and elijah, irenaeus says the following. There are also prophecies of elijah s return malachi 4. What st john is doing is using a theme which occurs fairly frequently in apocalyptic writings where elijah and enoch or other combinations of prominent figures are portrayed as opponents of antichrist. Revised, edited and presented in book form by brent tremain b min theol, b a ed. Apocalypse soon eight good reasons why enoch must be one.
In addition, both enoch and elijah were prophets who pronounced gods judgment 1 kings 17. However, enoch and elijah would have had been translated from mortal to immortality in order to be in heaven. He could have, by gods power, had the same kind of ministry as moses. Who are the witnesses commentary a testimony of jesus. Here are the only verses in the old testament that mention the rapture of enoch. Thus enoch met the conditions so that he should not see death.
Such reasoning holds no weight for we do not know the the ministry of enoch. Your next question is whether the two witnesses in revelation chapter eleven. Enoch and elijah as the two witnesses of the book of. And enoch walked with god after he begat methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and.
Thus, the two witnesses would be the two men who have not yet experienced death. The fate of enoch and elijah concordant publishing concern. Although the prophet elijah is referenced 69 times in the kjv bible, only two places discuss enoch by name, genesis 5. The second coming of elijah and enoch the bas library. The identity of these two witnesses is not revealed in scripture but some bible teachers assume it will be enoch and elijah because they are the only two individuals who have not experienced the general judgment for all. Some years ago, in 2014, matthew interviewed nineteen saints, which included an interview with elijah and enoch, the two witnesses in revelation 11. Before getting into this intriguing and very misunderstood topic, here is an interesting fact to introduce the illuminating truth on revelations two witnesses. One, by the name of haymo who served as the bishop of halberstadt 840853 ad, even quotes a version of malachi 4. However, the bible does not answer this question directly. Elijahs dramatic departure, like enochs before him, inspired the belief that god. Finally, one who spiritualizes the witnesses would conclude that.
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